This game is a JOKE. and not a funny one.

  • well tbf despite the title, i laughed my ash off at this video. but this is still sad state of the game and it makes it look really bad (and it actually is, so hey i guess i have to respect that it stays true to itself).


    so what am i talking about?


    i'm talking about a sponsored video for nostale that was made very recently (only few days ago).


    "and? that's a good thing." i hear you say. well, normally yes. but, (and you already know things are going south when see the word "but")


    in this SPONSORED video, this bug that existed for YEARS now (just like many others) happened to this person.


    and honestly, what's the point of spending money on advertisements and sponsored videos when you have ship like this that would make people not touch the game and might even make them discourage other people they know from trying it.


    but hey, the new servers brought lots of money. so they have extra cash to waste on stuff like that instead of fixing ancient game breaking bugs. because who knows, some fool with mommy's credit card might fall for the bait and spend even more cash.


    anyway, this is the vid im talking about:

    link is time stamped to when he gets in the game, and as you can see he didnt get the main quest. and therefore was very confused about what to do. (although it made for a hilarious video, so there is the silver lining i guess)


    with that being said, i'm willing to make a bet. this (along with other) ancient game breaking bugs that have existed for many years now will not get fixed before another new server gets opened.

    Update: add another vid to the list of "bugged sponsored vids"


    Update2: the bug in these videos are supposedly going to be fixed
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    this game is still a JOKE though.

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  • Where do i begin ?

    This video just went to show how out of touch with the reality Entwell is with this game and with what the player wants.


    First of all, let's start with the character creation customization, after more then 10 years of this game, the only thing that had been changed was the MA panel and that's it.

    Imagine being a MMORPG in 2019 where the only thing you can customize your starting character is the gender and the hair and even the latter is very restricted, literally only 2 hairstyles.

    I mean , if this game was 1 or 2 years old like the US server , then maybe i would understand, but this is from 2008. Seriously now.

    They didn't changed anything from 2008 till now.


    The second thing that caught my eye was how ancient the guides for this game are that are available in-game, like seriously, these are back when act 2 and blade/assassin/holy were endgame content.

    The first problem with this is that there are many things that could be added in the guide, like shells,runes,costume etc. Back then these didn't exist.

    This causes another problem, confusion, the screenshots used displayed old nosvile,old target icon for mobs etc.

    At one point the guy said that is confusing how the capture icon appears on the right in the guide, but its on the left and alot smaller in-game.

    Small annoying things that could be solved by making a new and polished guide, but who cares.


    And the main problem of the game, the bug that didn't show the main quest is a big and major problem for new players, that should be solved as soon as possible, for obvious reasons.

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  • Pfff... I know GameForge intention was good (or at least I want to think that) but as Nostale content creator on Youtube (videos & streamings) and also Marketing Specialist, this kind of decisions make me cry so hard.

    The main difference between PvE and PvP player is that the first one fights vs himself to achieve his best version of himself while the second one just wanna be better than others.


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  • Hello everyone :)


    Yes I already noticed this and forwarded it to the responsible department. Thank you for raising the topic!

    As for the bug fixing and marketing budget: Those two topics are not related to each other.

    We try our best to fix existing bugs in collaboration with Entwell. This works like this: You guys report bugs, the game team forwards them to us (or I see the posts myself) and our QA Department then forwards them to Entwell who take care of fixing them. This has worked like a charm in the past two years at least. The best you can do to help us fixing those, is keep reporting them!

    (Our Marketing Department is however not related to any kind of bug fixing issues ;) )

    If you have further questions regarding this topic, I´ll try to do my best to answer them.

  • this is literally pathetic xD the next thing that should have happened was the time for IC to come and him getting camera bug while inside xD

    edit: Aureli since it's about youtube, Gameforge calling out for content creators; a.k.a. Forgemasters! this damn thread's link just sends me to a "page not found"...it's been like that for atleast a month now

  • I am happy, that they have finally started with this kind of advertisement. Now do it again, better. Do it with PL/DE/ITA/CZ..... youtubers. Thank you!

    i know that they did sponsor a german youtuber too. as for other languages, idk. you could investigate that yourself.



    As for the bug fixing and marketing budget: Those two topics are not related to each other.

    yeah, yeah.. heard this a million time already with other games. "art team has nothing to do with developer team" and stuff like that. but simply put, it's not about different individuals or teams doing their tasks. it's about where the company put their focus on and allocate resources to. if all they care about is making money, they'll put their focus on the art team and expanding it as much as they can to produce as many skins as possible to sell. while the dev team role is just implementing those skins/other money making stuff in the game instead of bug fixing.


    i know what goes around in gf cus my uncle, and i can tell you for a fact that what i just explained is the case in nostale. gf is only pressuring enotwell to make more content that sells instead of telling them to halt that for a bit and focus on fixing bugs and polish the game.


    We try our best to fix existing bugs in collaboration with Entwell. This works like this: You guys report bugs, the game team forwards them to us (or I see the posts myself) and our QA Department then forwards them to Entwell who take care of fixing them. This has worked like a charm in the past two years at least.

    your charm seems to be broken then. as i've said in the thread, this bug shown in this video as well as many other well-known and reported multiple time bugs have existed for YEARS now and they are still not fixed.


    the past two years you say eh?

    here are examples from the last two years:


    chapter 1: the infamous graphic bug

    i bet this bug has happened at least once to every player who played a lot.

    Graphics bug, camera bug

    Bug,Glitch,lag or worse ?

    BUG in LOD

    Graphic bug in instant combat


    and you know something is terribly wrong and that it's an ancient bug that has been around since the dawn of nostale and that it happens regularly when a veteran player calls it "normal".

    that is a normal bug lol since i have this happening to me most of the time in IC or lod


    chapter 2: blank screen bug

    IC purple screen bug+1sp bug

    i noticed that this happens commonly in yerti raid. but could also happen anywhere really (albeit less frequently than yerti in my exprience).


    chapter 3: let the gm punish instead of fixing

    Minigame reward bug

    this thread was made in 2013 TWO. THOUSAND. FREAKING. THIRTEEN. need i say more? 6 years later and there is still no fix for it.

    "it'll be fine, just let the gms bump the thread every 2 years and punish anyone who would use it. no need to fix" -Enotwell


    Bug Abuse Event Raid

    this is another example of that. on the previous year of this same event, the "bug" was discovered and was well known. instead of fixing it first before releasing it in the next year.. they decided to just ignore it and keep it as it is, and have gms deal with the issue yet again.


    here's a discussion about it for those who might be interested: Clarity on Bug Rule

    ^ in that thread pts 50-60 is also mentioned which is also another example of "don't bother fixing, just let gm ban"



    and i would like to remind you this is just the past 2 years on this forums. there is probably more common and very old bugs on older threads in here that are no longer available, and on other communities forums.



    edit: Aureli since it's about youtube, Gameforge calling out for content creators; a.k.a. Forgemasters! this damn thread's link just sends me to a "page not found"...it's been like that for atleast a month now

    i mentioned this issue on my other thread about the "upgrade". in your case, you can just copy the link instead of clicking. or here let me do you the favour: www.hero.li/forgemasters

    the link is working perfectly fine, it's just the fault of this downgrade.

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  • A wise person told me that their marketing team needs to be burned alive. Seriously, you don't even need any marketing skills or experience to notice that they keep failing over and over... They keep making bad decisions motivated by their greed.

  • At this point I consider every god damn person in Entwell or GF work as their weekend part-time job.


    Before you say any shit about non-constructive comment, we did have constructive suggestions.

  • I would like to say a lot of things about this in order to give my point of view as not only old player, also as experienced player, Nostale content creator and Marketing Specialist. I will make the video in english to make it easier to understand for all and I will share it here as soon as possible to know your opinion.

    The main difference between PvE and PvP player is that the first one fights vs himself to achieve his best version of himself while the second one just wanna be better than others.


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  • well all i can say is a video i did of lod in sp8 has more views lol and a video showing r8 upgrade cost lol

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHwaslPgHY4

    a total laggy video with me showing how you can make an erenia fairy also has wayyy more

    if they want to make the game more "famous" then i'd just spend some of my "GM life" "gameforge guy life " "entwell guy" or whatever to "cheat" an account where i can show to everyone the best parts of nostale,like:
    "in this game you start as an adventurer,you have to go on quests where you can be accompanied by other players or...by a pet which you can capture or receinve from specific raids or the ingame shop*10 seconds of showing time space stones together with pets and partners*.Once you reach level 15 and job 20 *video skips to lv15 job 20* you can evolve yourself to one of the 3 classes:archer,magician or a swordsman.Until now everything seems normal,specific to a MMORPG.What is that special to this game?EACH of those 3 specific classes have their own transformations!Like an upgraded class which you can equip or disequip whenever you want *show some SPs with awesome skills and different wings for showoff*. etc etc The equipmanet has 7 different rarities and can be upgraded up to level 10.Until now the maximum level was 99 and people weren't really focused on leveling as they were on getting strong enough for pvp which really important in MMORPGS because yeah,we all want to beat every single damn other person and show them how strong we are",coming with the act 6,which is like chapter 6 of the Nostale Story besides main level there is also a secondary level called champion level which allows you to wear the strongest equipment in the game and gives you a lot of bonuses such as damage,defence,hp and mp aand it can even increase you resistance to the 4 major elements of the monsters in the game.Coming back to equipment rarities,the champion level eq have an extra rarity,r8,called phenomenal,which is pretty much just ...the truth,those eq are f***ing broken.From a newbie player which joins a 15 man raid and hardly finishes it in 5 minutes you can become one of the strongest players and solo win the specific raid in LESS than 5 minutes,so basically you are as strong as 15 people or even stronger.There is a lot of grind to do and it takes a long time to get in the top but that's what mmos are about,beating everyone no matter who they are and knowing how many things there are in this game i cant wait the day where i can call myself the best in the nosville-world."

    and sh*t like that,that's just something i wrote in 5 minutes and with 1 hour of review with 2-3 more people to assist you this little text will be enough for a video of 15 mins(or 10,people don't like to watch long as fk videos).All that's left is the "cheat" i've been talking about where you just get leveled up and the eq you need to make people actually interested,the power you need,the acces to the map you want to be in and whatever.For real entwell,use ur 1 IQ for once.I'll do a job 10x better than this guy did even if you paid me only 10$.Why the hell would you try to make your game more "famous" by sponsoring a guy to play ur game 10 mins and never play it again?all he did was download the game,create an account,play for 15 min and then post his video.My little sister can do the same sh*t.He has tons of subs?just freaking watch all his video's views,1.5k-3k on all videos when he has 200k subs?pls,1 week and i will get more than 200k subs by botting.Call me when you think you're worthy of my ideas you stupid losers.


    Aureli you are the main way for us to communicate with gameforge,right?then please show them this post,copy paste it,screenshoot and email it,whatever,just do it.I'd even be a game tester for them for free if that would mean they'll actually stop being some airheads,atleast i can see that my screen doesn't show "the game screen" compared to them.

  • The bois trying to flex whom vids have more views makes me rofl.

    Nice wall of text FirBow btw !



    Here are some highlights of the comments section of the vid !

    Good old veterans giving tips for those that are gonna try the game !

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    The overall reaction of the people ! This sparks so much interest in the game !

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    Small Delox cameo !

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    Also this one is my fave, Tay gets assaulted by a fan ! <3 Always makes me laugh when i read this ! :D

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  • ok ok.. we get it.. you got more views than that guy on some of your vids. that's great and all but let's turn this thread into hating and harassing that guy please. he's just trying to make a living and he got nothing to do with this.


    Aureli you are the main way for us to communicate with gameforge,right?then please show them this post,copy paste it,screenshoot and email it,whatever,just do it.I'd even be a game tester for them for free if that would mean they'll actually stop being some airheads,atleast i can see that my screen doesn't show "the game screen" compared to them.

    no, actually that would be me. i can get whatever it is straight to the top management of GF. but im not going to comply with your request since you have not even bothered showing gratitude when i helped you with that link earlier. smh kids these days dont even have common courtesy.

    but i'll consider it if you are able to beat safo 1v1 ;)



    anyway, here's yet another sponsored vid with that same bug. when i tell you this game is a joke, i aint lyin

    note: please no hate towards the person who made this vid, thx.

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