Soulstone Blessing?

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    • Soulstone Blessing?

      Hey guys,

      I'm a (kinda) new player. I recently got into the game after 10 years.

      My family and I are having a bit of a debate...

      It is my understanding that the "soulstone blessing" gives you the full amount of experience you'd receive outside of a specialist card but while you're inside of the card.

      They believe it increases your card experience gain by 50%.

      Which is right?

      Thanks ahead of time
    • Im not entirely sure what you are saying...

      Just to make sure I've got my basics covered, you will never receive SP exp without being transformed into that SP(pretty sure you know that, but still not entirely sure what you are saying)

      Now what I ASSUME you are saying is this:

      Without buff
      SP exp: 50% job exp earned
      Normal job exp: 50% job exp earned

      With buff
      SP exp: 100% job exp earned
      Normal job exp: 50% job exp earned

      What your friends think

      Without buff
      SP exp: 50% job exp earned
      Normal job exp: 50% job exp earned

      With buff
      SP exp earned: 75% job exp earned
      Normal job exp: 50% job exp earned

      Am I understanding correctly?

      I've never really tried to test it myself(I don't buy xp buffs, only ever have any from winter event) Though all you'd have to do to test it is see if you get double SP exp or less...
    • Close... sort of. I'm saying this:

      Without buff
      SP exp: 50% job exp earned
      Normal job exp: 50% job exp earned

      With buff
      SP exp: 50% job exp earned
      Normal job exp: 100% job exp earned

      I'm pretty sure they're thinking

      Without buff
      SP exp: 50% job exp earned
      Normal job exp: 50% job exp earned

      With buff
      SP exp earned: 75-100(not sure if it would additive or multiplicative)% job exp earned
      Normal job exp: 50% job exp earned
    • Oh I see, I'd have to read the buff in-game. I thought you were talking about one of the buffs for increasing SP experience.

      Though to be honest, your normal job levels up quickly enough I'm not really sure what the point in such a buff would even be... The majority of your play time your normal job is maxed and you are leveling up your many SPs.

      Regardless it is much easier to understand your question now. (And even easier to test... Just see if you get ANY bonus SP exp after using such a buff.

      Hopefully someone who uses buffs can give you a proper answer soon now that it is easy to understand.

      I've gotta say though, the name of that buff sounds incredibly familiar to me. Is it perhaps a winter event buff? Winter buffs have pet/partner xp, SP xp and overall xp if I remember right. So if you ARE talking about the winter event buff, I'm pretty sure your family is correct.

      The post was edited 1 time, last by Ruff ().

    • If you use the Soulstone blessing while you're not in a specialist, you will not get any bonus exp, basically it will do nothing.
      But when you are in a Specialist, you will earn a bonus of 50% job exp.
      So as an example, let's say normal exp without any attributes or additions is 100% exp.
      If you now use a Soulstone blessing with no specialist, your exp will still remain 100% exp as normal, meaning nothing extra is applied.
      But if you use a Specialist, your exp from 100%, becomes 150% job exp.
      So if a certain monster you kill gives 0.10% job exp per kill without the blessing, the blessing will add 50% to the kill as long as you're wearing a specialist, giving 0.10 + 50% = 0.15% exp per monster.
      And then if you applied that with a Blessing of Ancelloan which gives 100% Job experience, you result would be normal exp = 100%, + soulstone exp = 50%, + blessing of ancelloan = 250% = (0.10%x250%) = 0.25% exp per kill.
      I hope this explains it.
    • Nah, it is still missing a bit of information

      You say it gives 50% extra while you use a specialist but does that mean it is like this:

      Without buff
      Normal job xp: 50%
      SP xp: 50%

      With buff
      Normal job xp: 75%
      SP xp: 75%

      Also, how are things affected when normal job is maxed or the SP is maxed?(I can't remember if that changes anything or not)
    • I don't understand where you guys are getting the 75% from though, and why would normal job be under 100% exp without the buff if it's normal exp?
      When you kill a mob normally you get 100% exp as 100% exp is basically normal (without any boost), and the item boosts exp by 50%, and then also from my own personal experience and knowledge, soulstone gives no bonus exp to normal experience (player without specialist) but will only add the 50% bonus exp to a specialist that you are wearing, and if you are wearing a specialist you don't recieve extra normal job exp either, the item *only* works for specialist cards.
      And if you're talking about the job exp that's reduced because you're in a specialist card, then I don't know the % for that, but everything else should go accordingly.
    • I said normal job xp, not level xp. You are getting then mixed up.

      I'll give an example.

      I'm using a level 20 sorcerer. My job level is 12. I have a level 22 Pyjama SP

      If I kill an enemy without my SP I get xp like this

      Level: 100% of earned
      Job: 100% of earned
      SP: 0% of earned

      If I kill an enemy while wearing my Pyjama SP I get x like this

      Level: 100% of earned
      Job: 50% of earned
      SP: 50% of earned

      This is why people don't use their SPs when trying to level up their normal job. It takes 2x as long while wearing SPs.

      The question here, is how the buff affects these different xp rates.

      His family said it does this

      Level: 100% of xp earned
      Job: 50% of xp earned
      SP: 100% of xp earned

      He thought it did this

      Level: 100% of xp earned
      Job: 100% of xp earned
      SP: 50% of xp earned

      You said it increases non-combat xp 50%, but that isn't very specific on exactly what is being affected. Honestly there are several variations.

      Level: 100% of xp earned
      Job: 75% of xp earned
      SP: 75% of xp earned

      Level: 100% of xp earned
      Job: 50% of xp earned
      SP: 75% of xp earned

      Level: 100% of xp earned
      Job: 50% of xp earne
      SP: 100% of xp earned

      Level: 100% of xp earned
      Job: 100% of xp earned
      SP: 100% of xp earned

      Now by xp earned, I'm talking about the xp you would have gotten without the buff AND without splitting it between job and SP.

      The only thing I'm sure it is not is what the poster thought it was

      Level: 100% of xp earned
      Job: 100% of xp earned
      SP: 50% of xp earned

      I know for a fact it isn't that last one, because the SP definitely gets bonus xp. I am not sure the actual values it gives to each category though.
    • Hmm I read you post over again... Honestly not being sure exactly how people are using words is confusing...

      But from what I can tell you are saying normal job xp gets no bonus, so that knocks out 2 of the options. The remaining options are:

      Level: 100% of xp earned
      Job: 50% of xp earned
      SP: 75% of xp earned

      Level: 100% of xp earned
      Job: 50% of xp earne
      SP: 100% of xp earned

      It would also be helpful to know how having a max level SP or max job affects these numbers.

      Also, is the buff additive or multiplicative

      Also, does the xp split between SP and job happen before or after the buffs.(honestly if this split didn't exist calculations would be so much easier)

      All of these combinations can add up to different xp gain results. Personally, I don't really care as I just feel I'll level up when I level up. But to properly answer the question this would be valuable information.

      Edit: based on your post we can assume buffs work additively and after the xp is split.

      Next we only need to know if the buffs apply to how much the enemy was worth, or how much xp our SP actually recieved.(this is the only information that cant be deduced from your post, assuming all the information in your example is accurate)

      The post was edited 1 time, last by Ruff ().