About our server sad future

    • FireBow wrote:

      i've been thinking to sugest to the gms something lately but now that steam is coming this is a MUST
      Our nos$ rate increasedseller so bad in price lately fron 1:60-65 to more than 1:80,there were no fairy boosters in baxar and when there appeared some they were on a 1:100 rate
      If even the base use items are expensive (boas etc) how will the low levels(now including the newcoming steam guys) level?500k for a boa?that's not worth for a low level who is struggling to pay 1mil for sp3 quest
      So i'm suggesting you IF YOU DONT WANT US AND OUR SERVER to get rekted and become the new spanish server with 1:200+ nosrate(1.2mil boa) to do one/some small mini events EASY for everyone,like some questions and answer with not important price but decent amount and SELLABLE items
      For example :5x boas,5x fairy boosters,99x woas (or lets call them angel's feather?),88x huge pots,stuff like thata BUT SELLABLE so nosbazar price cap drop back to a normal price and poor people can afford them (and even make money by selling)
      I repeat,sellable rewards,not 517366319 mil worth items but small items/amounts like that...considering 100x players would probably be part of this(ofc allowed with just 1 acc) 5x boas to every1 gonna be 5 stacks,they get sold in max 2days usually or even 1 and more people listing them-more downprice-lower price-better economy
      Its a win-to-win for both buyer and seller and its not really hard to spend 1 hour on puting some questions,harder part is to check answers and to give the rewards(u might be able to do a trick ,open a new map on a ch,inside this map put 2 portals one meaning yes and one meaning now,ask "act 4 has more than 1 time space stone missions",whoever goes on yes portal will be in a new map,same for no so u have winner team and losing team,you can just reward the ones from right answer map and then summon both maps To the original event map with the 2 portals (ofc no portals in yes/no map)
      Yes you guys are busy you cant host raids/make events but for real,when was the last mini event?the players want/need this and one is really needed when there will apprar new players so they can have some start money and dont give up after not even 1week...and as i said,they nees better priced items not 500k boas or 500k blue scroll for trying to +3 a sp which fails already enough(even +1 fails too much...)
      This is just for the good of our server so please take this in consideration
      Well as @Morgoth said there were some problems about raiding,but well.The sad thing is who ever does the wrong move in the GF/GM or who commands u all,its damn bad move, i get there was a beef or sth like that was i readed ur post,but we are dieing here ,people quitting so bad, tons of old players quitting,its bad when u gotta quit,its hard but after u quitted ,there is no way comming back ^^ You may find olther hobbies and u lose more and more the enjoyment of the game sooooo yes,since is gone as i said no way to be back.Idk what to say ,in past i tought GMs has the biggest power in this game , but as i see there are more and more who are the big bosses,u guys should try play the game as normal player start from 0 and by this way u could see the prices and things that u cant do a + on ur card cuz woas from the prices 12-15 k to 30k at this point and full moons,and more and more even blue scrolls , yes.. it would be sad for u guys start it ,old time used to be so fun ,i had alot enjoyment on it,now its half gone,i dont even wanna go champion level ,cuz maybe there will be less and less players, i dont wanna play solo so..Thanks again for answering .Best Regards , Candy !

      FireBow wrote:

      sorry for tippo mistakes i'm on phone and its 2:35 AM
      Edit:also there is NO GOOD WAY of making money under level 80 or evenet 90
      Do what?jelly raid for a 20k eq?10k divine glove?oh wow, ya flame glove 100k,what are the chances to get one.everytime?also seals being100k+...ginseng raid?i cant even remember what does it give...some eq?eq which u have to change in 1 day because of the xp u get from quests and u are leveling...dark castra raid?ok decent raid with not usefull rewards ,spider raid?i need to full pot even with champ eq(i have to admit i "solo" my way there but if i dont do it the others will just die and etc,they dont even know the buttons,had to do buttons today in a ginseng raid and wait for 2 people who were left WAY behing and tank for thema while others went inside boss and finished raid before we managed to enter inside)
      Only good way was ibra raid 80+ raid where people want only 85+ or90+ and just archers but now guess what,yertirand raid giving 83-85 act 5.1 eq and making themnotebook 50k from 1m+,gold coins are trash now...ibrahim bag would probably be worth now 100-150k max from old 250-300 and you have to admit you use 5+ full pots (125k)if you are not a 93+ r7 armour war
      I was hosting before rarely ibra and i was spam asked how, many am i doing,will you do more?can you call me if u do more?thanks very much (even if it was just 1 raid sometimes)
      What i am trying to say is that when steam thing is launched 1-2 weeks later we need to have an mini event(to have,not totu announce that after 1 more it will hapen) or they end up being a lv 60 trying to find a fam for lod while having 40 eq and no money for sader/wk quest or strength to do quest...
      And dont forget res cost for lod,boa ofc,lurer needs to have a mount or he is gonna spam pots,oh also they probably gonna use a lv 30 chicken pet and a 50 kliff with lv 35 eq,so good vs 75 reb who does more than 2k damage and DONT EVEN MENTION the word pet dolls when they are 2.5k ea and pets will spamdie more than my 90 arm kliff with res does in act 6
      Also true.
    • gms keep saying they cant do anything about noswheel and updates and etc so we have to talk with entwell=never happens
      Gms keep saying we as a community need to do something to repair the economy but YOU are a part of the community too,i understand there were ppl wanting more raids but thats because they were not geting luck on boxes for example on sp8 and nobody adds them,ofc they'd want more to make some money
      You dont have to stop doing this at all and no way you should ignore the economy that fell down so bad this monh just because ppl get greedy,its either server dieing either "sacrificeing" 1-2hours of nerves
    • Wow wow wow, calm, I also understand that we need alot of changes, but if I was to put myself in GM's shoes then what you just wrote is very unreasonable, players control the rates, GM's don't get paid, so they're not necessarily obligated to host events and raids and are doing what they do out of their own free will.

      Alot of things and problems with the game seem to be only known to the players, which is the most unfortunate factor as we experience many issues that simply wont get solved because they're not seen or known by the creators, so I do think it would be a good idea for GM's and other members of staff to give the game a run to understand our current situation, a couple of GM's dont know that Specialist 2 for Swordsman is referred to as Blade, but in-game is named "Ninja" which caused alot of confusion, but then again not everyone has free time these days, maybe a team specialised in testing bugs should exist with the sole purpouse of experiencing in-game dilemma's and reporting back to Entwell.
      Entwell could also possibly have bigger events planned that could solve future problems but only time will tell, Valhalla quests was a huge expansion to help lower levels with levelling up and Yertirand Wands gave mage class a spark of hope in PvP, if updates continue like this, then the game may have many more years, I am happy for the game to open up to the Steam community but I just don't 100% think our server is ready to be introduced to newer players, but arena is mainly my main point, many of us base our entire gameplay on PvP, and not being able to freeley PvP isn't very helpful, and I don't want new players to experience what our current lower level community does, as they are just spam killed by fully buffed higher levels untill they realise they cant do anything about it, thus having to leave arena as they don't have a chance. Once arena is accessible to everyone and has multiple ways to play with others, then I believe we'll have a better number of people staying in our game.
    • @Lady Sky thanks for your reply <3 that infos worth alot XD since i dont really used steam..


      @ghostheadnebula & Morgoth well why not if we did something after killing all the mons in the old Milano/nosville map there's few days double exp like used to be?i mean you could modified it to increased exp only for lvl 70- or eqp/item drop raid for few %,or betting eqp sucess increase rate few% or even gold drop boost...well if possible 1 times a month or week?XD *maybe im overdreaming alt s* the reason i said that modified the reward so lvl 80 or 90s player can stay at their current lvl and let new community to catch up/adapt with us for a moment...well ya i know if im asking for too much XD just suggesting though...


      @the rest of the repliers sorry i dont read all of your comment but to summarize it up mostly is about pvp and nosmalling.it is great to hear nos will be on steam but...you need new generation to have fun in order to purchase nos$ so it is no use if you guys thinking they will 100% purchase it and reduce the rate before they even enjoyed it i know some will purchase to be strong by selling but dont get your hope too high not all will do
      for pvpers i think you guys should at least hold it back a little if you guys really want a strong player to pvp with especially in fc...some old player are unable to match with you guys too so dont bully newbs that forced them quit for that silly reason even with alts bully in ib...

      feel free to tell me if im wrong or anything XD
    • Morgoth wrote:

      NarutoDreams wrote:

      Haha,as a player i would hope for a better future in case i still have a flame of enjoy for this game,if not hope im negative and say ehhhh let it die...Lets just hope better be positive.Also i got that u all have ur own normal lifes or own lifes we all do but atleast afk there i dont get whats bad in afking in vilage, we dont eat GMs at all or host a Cuby raid a day or 1 at a year wont take a year to make it at all players will apreciate that atleast see GMs give a s*** about us, tho i dont wanna be rude or sth , but im no the only one would like to see u guys near us atleast afk idm.. but i didnt saw any of us for months .I'm sorry in case u feel like im rude or sth , but im just have some enjoyment on this game still, untill it will die, i just think there can be some ways can make people nosmall, prices can be change,there can be Prices % OFF of nosmall not just at damn roulette ,some people just use roulette so they increast up the damn Nos$ rate , the rate will go damn 200:1k lets see who will join that kind of game,and if GF does that please tell em its a damn idiot idea to add PRICES OFF % or double spin or anything that doesnt help the game just make it worse , no nosmallers that use it just buy items ,idk maybe im wrong but thats wat it happend last few years, from 1:30-40 to damn 1:75-80,so its not good soon will be 100k wat people will do ?? Quit ;) the 1:60 price used to be kinda not bad at all but since they increast more and more is not kinda nice.Sorry again maybe im wrong but thats wat i see.
      Lockheed and me used to do a lot of GM raids some months back. In the end it became a headache for us as people were always unhappy - asking for more and more raids or even demanding raids(in a bad way) to be hosted. It is not within our duties to host any raid at all so basically we were doing it out of our own free will and courtesy.Before start blaming try to ask if the community did something wrong towards us that would result in stopping the raids.

      Loluh wrote:

      I find the main problem being game moderators getting power trips and banning players for no reason. We would still be fairly active if this didn't happen. But what can you do when all the gms are also in game players, of course there's bound to be unfairness.
      Also how hard it is to make gold in this game, grinding for months 10+ hours a day and then to have it all wasted because of getting unlucky.
      How about you start following and respecting the rules instead of thinking your ban was a conspiracy theory out of some movie?

      I'm not banned? and i'm certainly not the only player that agrees on this.

      Bravious wrote:

      Wow wow wow, calm, I also understand that we need alot of changes, but if I was to put myself in GM's shoes then what you just wrote is very unreasonable, players control the rates, GM's don't get paid, so they're not necessarily obligated to host events and raids and are doing what they do out of their own free will.

      Alot of things and problems with the game seem to be only known to the players, which is the most unfortunate factor as we experience many issues that simply wont get solved because they're not seen or known by the creators, so I do think it would be a good idea for GM's and other members of staff to give the game a run to understand our current situation, a couple of GM's dont know that Specialist 2 for Swordsman is referred to as Blade, but in-game is named "Ninja" which caused alot of confusion, but then again not everyone has free time these days, maybe a team specialised in testing bugs should exist with the sole purpouse of experiencing in-game dilemma's and reporting back to Entwell.
      Entwell could also possibly have bigger events planned that could solve future problems but only time will tell, Valhalla quests was a huge expansion to help lower levels with levelling up and Yertirand Wands gave mage class a spark of hope in PvP, if updates continue like this, then the game may have many more years, I am happy for the game to open up to the Steam community but I just don't 100% think our server is ready to be introduced to newer players, but arena is mainly my main point, many of us base our entire gameplay on PvP, and not being able to freeley PvP isn't very helpful, and I don't want new players to experience what our current lower level community does, as they are just spam killed by fully buffed higher levels untill they realise they cant do anything about it, thus having to leave arena as they don't have a chance. Once arena is accessible to everyone and has multiple ways to play with others, then I believe we'll have a better number of people staying in our game.

      Only 10% of this game is based on pvp. There is A LOT to do outside of pvping, Pve, socialising, this stuff is a lot more fun than pvp in my opinion. I did base my whole nostale life on pvp but, once i explored pve'ing i found it a lot more enjoyable. This isn't the reason people stop playing, the reason is how grind-worthy it is and how you can spend your whole life to make 1b and then have it wasted failing on 1 piece of equipment or sps. It's really simple, they need to make gold more easily obtainable. Non nosmallers have this game insanely hard, i'm not saying they need to make it incredibly easy, but it's current state is ridiculous. Even spending money on this game as a nosmaller isn't worth the money you obtain in game lol and also, majority of players don't even go to arena, like 90% of players are pve players.

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    • Loluh wrote:

      Morgoth wrote:

      NarutoDreams wrote:

      Haha,as a player i would hope for a better future in case i still have a flame of enjoy for this game,if not hope im negative and say ehhhh let it die...Lets just hope better be positive.Also i got that u all have ur own normal lifes or own lifes we all do but atleast afk there i dont get whats bad in afking in vilage, we dont eat GMs at all or host a Cuby raid a day or 1 at a year wont take a year to make it at all players will apreciate that atleast see GMs give a s*** about us, tho i dont wanna be rude or sth , but im no the only one would like to see u guys near us atleast afk idm.. but i didnt saw any of us for months .I'm sorry in case u feel like im rude or sth , but im just have some enjoyment on this game still, untill it will die, i just think there can be some ways can make people nosmall, prices can be change,there can be Prices % OFF of nosmall not just at damn roulette ,some people just use roulette so they increast up the damn Nos$ rate , the rate will go damn 200:1k lets see who will join that kind of game,and if GF does that please tell em its a damn idiot idea to add PRICES OFF % or double spin or anything that doesnt help the game just make it worse , no nosmallers that use it just buy items ,idk maybe im wrong but thats wat it happend last few years, from 1:30-40 to damn 1:75-80,so its not good soon will be 100k wat people will do ?? Quit ;) the 1:60 price used to be kinda not bad at all but since they increast more and more is not kinda nice.Sorry again maybe im wrong but thats wat i see.
      Lockheed and me used to do a lot of GM raids some months back. In the end it became a headache for us as people were always unhappy - asking for more and more raids or even demanding raids(in a bad way) to be hosted. It is not within our duties to host any raid at all so basically we were doing it out of our own free will and courtesy.Before start blaming try to ask if the community did something wrong towards us that would result in stopping the raids.

      Loluh wrote:

      I find the main problem being game moderators getting power trips and banning players for no reason. We would still be fairly active if this didn't happen. But what can you do when all the gms are also in game players, of course there's bound to be unfairness.
      Also how hard it is to make gold in this game, grinding for months 10+ hours a day and then to have it all wasted because of getting unlucky.
      How about you start following and respecting the rules instead of thinking your ban was a conspiracy theory out of some movie?
      I'm not banned? and i'm certainly not the only player that agrees on this.
      I know, the "you" is in plural and for whoever got/gets banned. I had a more general meaning. Nobody likes to be banned and when they do they just spread false rumors around. Do not believe everything you hear.

      Aside from that, as others already said we do not control the economy of the community and giving free items away is not really an acceptable way of solving this lol.
    • I thought that everyone knew the whole economy is ruled only and only by players, the nostale uk staff have nothing to do with it.
      GM's are able to change the economy but not for the better,If Morgoth would acttualy start running around nosville dropping boa's and cc's,the nosmallers would riot and without them this game will die in no time.Also the publisher would not allow this as its aganst the point of any mmorpg and Morgoth will lose his job.
      But if he starts hosting some sp raids and add the "unlucky" players it wont be a huge improve(unless he do it daily) but trust us there are more people that would appreciate seeing a GM in nosville then those that hate you guys for whatever reason.We don't ask you to be daily there but once a month when you can would be nice.Last time i saw a GM in-game was in 2016 for god sake.
      Say what you feel,it's not being rude.It's being real.
    • Loluh wrote:

      Only 10% of this game is based on pvp. There is A LOT to do outside of pvping, Pve, socialising, this stuff is a lot more fun than pvp in my opinion. I did base my whole nostale life on pvp but, once i explored pve'ing i found it a lot more enjoyable. This isn't the reason people stop playing, the reason is how grind-worthy it is and how you can spend your whole life to make 1b and then have it wasted failing on 1 piece of equipment or sps. It's really simple, they need to make gold more easily obtainable. Non nosmallers have this game insanely hard, i'm not saying they need to make it incredibly easy, but it's current state is ridiculous. Even spending money on this game as a nosmaller isn't worth the money you obtain in game lol and also, majority of players don't even go to arena, like 90% of players are pve players.
      Where did you get the random number that only 10% of users PvP, and I never said there isn't other stuff to do outside of PvP, saying that PvE is more fun than PvP is subjective to only you, not the entire community. Personally my entire gameplay isn't just to PvE, if it was then I'd easily be over champ level 40 and get bored, I PvE to get stronger equipment for 1v1 PvP and enjoy using it for a solid duration of time before moving on to what's next, and I don't focus on using all my gold on upgrading specialists either if it's not going to have a gigantic benefit to me, then next you also state that 90% of the population are PvE players, you cant just point out random statistics, if there was only 10% nosmalling then they'd probably have to spend a gigantic amount to pay for our server to keep running for all this time. On another point, players aren't going arena as much as they used to because of the toxicity, if you've possibly played as long as me you could clearly see how full and lively it was before it became a war zone.
    • Bravious is right,no way only 10% of population is interested in PVP.There is a whole act dedicated for open world PVP afterall.Besides PVP is still better then those cringy dialogues npcs give for quest,nonsense story and the raids tend o get boring quickly like doing daily the same sp 5/6 raids just to have some minimum money.The endgame raids are also very rare and exclusivistic.I think everyone that played and still plays Nostale experienced atleast once an PVP enviroment.
      Making Twinks for lv 50- AoT is also hilarious af.Too bad there are never enough lowbies to have fun with.
      Say what you feel,it's not being rude.It's being real.
    • Majority of the issues we have with this server are really out of our hands. Sure we can all suggest ideas for change but in the end a very small percentage of these issues can be solved.

      Also we unfortunately cannot change the attitude that players have. Some of them of really stuck up and will continue to get richer and gain better eqs, for the most part. But I find that most of these problematic players are higher levels who they're the best; I think it's impossible to be considered the "best" since this game has a lot of luck going into the outcome of the players success and there will always be someone out there who has a better eq, sps, more gold etc. All in all this game is very fun, but also very challenging and frustrating for many reasons.
    • deadtoad wrote:

      I completely agree with you this game is extremely frustrating. It's quite bittersweet because it's a lot of fun and I personally find it quite addicting and unique. But the amount of money you have to spend to be considered "strong" is ridiculous. And making money in game requires lots of support from a family, you'll never progress as a solo player it's literally impossible. If you want to make a good budget through fc raids and 5-6 act raids+ leveling you need a lot of help, and most of the stronger familes won't take you in unless you have decent eqs+sps etc. It's kind of crazy, really which is why this game is filled with old players. We hardly get any new ones. Oh well there is really nothing we can do about it other than complain, the rich will just get richer and the poor will just suffer and quit lol
      I am agree with you. This is the greatest comment about NosTale :D



      Londrea
    • No one will fulfill your dreams for you, when I started I had no knowledge and I don't nosmall, it did take me years to get better but that's because I played casually for fun before I truly had big plans of progress.
      I eventually got myself together, focused on what is important and became a decent player, but yes, having connections to people is a big part in having progress and sucess at the game, make as many friends as possible and try find a family that can suppourt you in any way, I also started small during my first days of the game, I had no proper family untill I got to level 55, been in families with the highest level a Lvl 75 familyhead and treausured them as they were friendly and kind, many families and experiences throughout the years later, my family Onyx was found, and my family suppourt me in all kinds of ways and we help each other out as all our members have a strong bond from previous families and relationships (no random people), and kept me happy here. Even though im far into the game I also get into troubles with gold as I cannot afford everything I need, but I don't give up there, I try again and again till I get what I want, till this day my specialists are mostly +13 and I have 0 +15 specialists, but that's all to work towards one day and keeps the gameplay lasting longer. So growing and becoming super overpowered in the game isn't going to happen within a day, if you want to be succesful at the game, try find a group of players near or around your level to play with and grow, don't only think about your own progress, find ways you can help your friends and family to get them better too by maybe helping in lods or quest missions, everything will eventually benefit your potential future in the game. And years later you can look back upon yourself and learn from your mistakes, the game does have problems, but blaming everything on it wont solve anything, it all starts from you and what perspective you take on to becoming a great player.
    • Loluh wrote:

      But what can you do when all the gms are also in game players, of course there's bound to be unfairness.
      Surely I played Nostale before, but not in UK - and in every community you can complain to the direct superior considering the staff's hierachy if you have a valid reason to do so. I don't think it's fair though to spread such rumour since the assumption is obviously not based on facts :)


      invisibleman wrote:

      i mean you could modified it to increased exp only for lvl 70- or eqp/item drop raid for few %,or betting eqp sucess increase rate few% or even gold drop boost...well if possible 1 times a month or week?XD
      Unfortunetly we're limited regarding stuff like that, so if we were to host events it'd be something similar to the previous ones :) Of course you can make similar suggestions though.

      When you're sad and no one knows it,
      I'll send you Black Roses...
    • The time has come!
      Create new server, make recruit a friend quest (get rewarded every 10 lvls you and your friend get), also some reward if people share
      that new server came around (somewhere maybe some social website)... So many people are talking about this for the last couple of years,
      that would bring people back and maybe return Nostale.uk to life... What can you lose to try? :) Best regards!